Curse

Van Goghs Ear · Apr 26, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02

I did it with two excellent monks that are always there, mhenlo and lina.

foo · Apr 26, 2008, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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not perfect, but will do easily.

The Abbott · Apr 26, 2008, 09:06 AM // 09:06

we did it last night with no monks, just two n/rt's

pumpkin pie · Apr 26, 2008, 10:34 AM // 10:34

spiky monkie also not bad with a water ele with maelstoradfm (however you spelld that)

Longasc · Apr 26, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44

I see no reason why people need a monk that charges them.

Ogden Stonehealer is realiable, does not quit and...

HEROES >>> RANDOM PLAYERS.

Anyways, who really pays you for that service probably did not deserve better... and you are odd, too. Do you have no better idea to make money?

Jecht Scye · Apr 26, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48

No offense OP, but if you joined my group and asked for money on completion of the mission - You'd get the big Italy. Then you'd be replaced by Talkhora

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Stranger The Ranger · Apr 26, 2008, 12:10 PM // 12:10

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

This has got to be one of the dumbest comments ever. If you believe this then anybody who works and makes money is a prostitute. So I guess we should all be jobless bums in your view.

Lol relax, I wasn't that serious >.>

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

...again this was one of the dumbest comments ever.

Cool, where do I get my medal?

Meh, y' know what? Maybe I should charge 1k for every skill I interrupt.

Abedeus · Apr 26, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

I see no reason why people need a monk that charges them.

Ogden Stonehealer is realiable, does not quit and...

HEROES >>> RANDOM PLAYERS.

Yeah. But N/Rt > any Monk. But yeah, heroes > players, anytime, anywhere. I did Hell's like 5 times on Ranger and 2 times on monk (2 times I did it because I wanted to get elite skill, gave up quickly, 2 times for myself, first mission, second was bonus, and one time I helped a bunch of friends to get HM, on monk I did it once for myself mission only and second time for a friend).

I want 7 heroes. Or at least 6 ;[ It's possible anyway, why not make it easier...

zwei2stein · Apr 26, 2008, 12:42 PM // 12:42

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Yeah. But N/Rt > any Monk

Technically, N/Rt + 1 Hybrid beats any monking setup because of versatility.
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Anyway, For HP, you dont need human monks, you dont even need hero monks, lina and mehnlo work just perfectly. they got buffed decently in last 3 years.

Back on topic, I monked it this morking with pug, i was lucky to find group formed from smart players in 10 minutes and besides semi-leeching elementalist, it went smoothly. Not really flawessly, but okay enough to make gameplay itself rewarding.

However, amount of people who desided they need "moar ursans, no noobs: NM without bonus" is sickening. Sucky player using this to get their HM/Elite monuments is undertandable (not right, but understandable), but for this kind of stuff? It makes no sense! For gods sake, its 20 minutes H/Hed if you take your time and chat on ICQ.

Solas · Apr 26, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Those that use the " oh maybe i'll charge to ele" etc. against this subjet, go out with your ele or w/e and try it, chances are you wont get any offers becuase there isnt a really high demand over supply.

with monks in hells there is, if he wants to let him, as long as he gets them through the mission and they agree to pay then its grand.

Yeah the mission is easy to H/H but im guessing most of GW gamers don't know that and believe pugs are better.

Issac · Apr 26, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

I don't think its wrong to charge in this mission. I've done it heros and henchmen and I never had a problem lol.

Navaros · Apr 26, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed

Yeah the mission is easy to H/H but im guessing most of GW gamers don't know that and believe pugs are better.

Bad PUG players IMO just seem to be more numerous because they are the only ones that are heard from in outposts. Those who H/H and/or use friends/Guild/Alliance exclusively just go ahead and do the mission, not waste time advertising their presence in Local chat and making themselves known. There are legions of players like that, just hard to get a sense of how many since they are so quiet about being around.

Winterclaw · Apr 26, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

I was kind of amazed at the number of Ursan groups there, especially given that it took me around 15 minutes to hench it.

HP can be beaten in 15 minutes?

What am I doing wrong there?

Alex the Great · Apr 26, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

i totally saw you trying to charge people, how did you enjoy all the lol's?

viper11025 · Apr 26, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Use the henchman, you don't have a timelimit. >.>

the_jos · Apr 26, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Funny topic.
If you get into a group willing to pay for you to help them be prepared to work for your money.
They are probably desperate and that's not because they are awesome players.
Good reason I don't monk PUG except when there are some guildies, I'm asked to because they need a human monk and I feel like playing monk.

Dr Strangelove · Apr 26, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

HP can be beaten in 15 minutes?

What am I doing wrong there?

Grab a pile of scythe ranger heroes, spam great dwarf weapon on them, watch stuff explode. Bonus points for adding a curses necro.

llsektorll · Apr 26, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

lol u are QQing now?.... think of us when proph was only campaign and we had only mhenlo and lina... with nooby skills.... and a dimwit AI that over heals till they run out of enenergy

Winterclaw · Apr 26, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Grab a pile of scythe ranger heroes, spam great dwarf weapon on them, watch stuff explode. Bonus points for adding a curses necro.

I'll have to try that. Does that tactic work in HM as well?

HuntMaster Avatar · Apr 26, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Player's actually make this mission hard. I decided to be social and ran it with 4 groups. we failed horribly everytime because NO ONE WOULD LISTEN!

I got sick of waiting, so I ran it with my heroes and henchies and beat it on my first try. I came back and saw the same people still waiting to get a group to beat the mission. I showed them my new deli staff and they were not very happy with me.

This is a perfect exsample of how heroes and henchies are sometimes BETTER than players. For one thing, they listen. Then again I'v beaten everything with heroes and henchies so I'm used to them by now. ( and by sometimes I mean always.)

PS: No heroes or henchies died during my run. I even did the bonus.

PS#2: Well of blood should never be forgotten on this mission.

PS#3: Casters should learn to run away from monsters that are pounding them into a mudhole.

PS#4: You should kill the sparks before the titans.

I listed those things because a suprising amount of players just dont know, or simply dont listen. If you enjoy failing, keep up the good work.